Just obtained this nice vintage amp from an ebay auction. It’s has rare VFET Transistors which were produced only in the 70ies and have triode like sound and properties. I am going to restore it and report on the progress.
These old Sony amps had some design flaws, which often caused destruction of the VFET transistors. The transistors were only produced during a very short time in the 70ies and are ‘unobtainium’ nowadays. After I got my amp on ebay, the first thing I did, was to test, whether the precious 2sk60 and 2sj18 VFETs are still functional.
On Sony VFET models TA-4650, TA-5650 and similar the VFETs are easily accessible on the bottom of the amp:
I tested all VFETs according to the Sony Service Bulletin No, 62, and all were good. Lucky me !
To test yours, if you have such an amp, dusty sitting in a corner, or just got off from ebay, here are the testing instructions with a Multimeter:
Curve tracer measurements
I measured the 2sk60 and 2sj18 on a curve tracer to see how well they are matched. The previous owner reported that the right channel of the amp sounds a bit ‘soft’.
The 2sk60 are very well matched, but the 2sj18 show about 1 Volt difference in Vgs for the same current. I am not sure, but this could be one reason why the two channels may sound slightly different.
New Capacitors
Received the caps I ordered. I will replace all electrolytic caps in the amp with new ones. While some of the smaller caps in the power supply still measured good (despite being 40 years old), it’s better to replace them. The large screw terminal Nichicons in the power supply are not available anymore. Capacitors with same values which are close in diameter, height and screw-terminal distance are the Vishay BC 4700uF 63V (No. 222211418472).
The BC caps are 5mm less in diameter, but I wrapped some foam around them, and they stick quite nicely in the 40mm cap holder. Also the screw terminal is slightly narrower than on the original (unobtainable) Nichicons. I enlarged the holes on the PCB slighly with a 6mm drill. That was enough to fit the new BC caps. Other caps were replaced as well.
Potentiometers are also often a source of failure. The original pot’s were replaced by 2.2K Ohm multiturn pots.
I have disconnected (unsoldered) the terminals to the other boards, since I wanted to test the power supply first standalone…
All voltages were ok, but higher than the values in the service manual:
+/- 43 Volt was +/- 47 Volt
+/- 75 Volt was +/- 95 Volt
78V (to phono) was 95 Volt
20 Volt, was ok at 20 Volt (adjustable)
The higher voltage is due to two factors: In Germany mains electricity is 230V AC nowadays, and the amp is set to 220V AC. Secondly the power supply is running without load. When adding a load the output voltage of the transformer will drop a bit.
I’ll ‘jumper’ the Sony to use 240Volts input before the next steps…
Cleaning contacts
Started cleaning contacts, here the headphone and speaker selection board. Contacts on he Alps rotary encoder are black after 40 years. The board:
I cleaned contacts with a small glass-fiber stick and isopropanol. Time-consuming, but worth it. After cleaning, tested all contacts with a multi-meter.
On the same board, two resistors that feed the headphone jack were burned. I replaced them with 470R 2Watt types…
Also the relais was replaced with a new one with good contacts. Replacement type is Omron MY4-02 24V DC
Also the headphone jac was disassembled, contacts cleaned, re-assembled.
New relais and contacts after cleaning :
Hello,
I´m writing from Span and I´d like to know where did you get those Vishay BC 4700uF 63V caps.
Regards,
Daniel
HEllo,
I found the Vishay caps on Ebay.
Regards,
Oliver
Hi. My 4650 just made a ‘pop’ and stopped working. I used the sheet you posted above and the v-fets seem okay: S-D is 1.6 ohms both directions (sorry, my electronic knowledge is poor), G-S and G-D is nothing, S-G and D-G is 4.5 ohms. Seems like what the bulletin says.
Also, the power supply doesn’t give the “click” about 5-10 seconds after turning the unit on.
Any suggestions what to check next? Is my unit dead-dead?
Thanks,
Andrew
Hi, it’s difficult to analyze remotely. From your description, it Could be that one electrolytic capacitor popped. The lifetime of electrolytic caps is limited, and often people have advised to replace them on older gear. If you have limited electronic knowledge, you could/should have someone doing checks and repair for you. Working inside the amp can be lethal/dangerous, also when it’s unplugged, due to large capacitors in the power supply !
Regards,
Oliver